Chantrea Johari ([info]blackfaeryblood) wrote,
@ 2008-02-04 01:33:00
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Current location:池袋、豊島区、東京都
Current mood: sad
Current music:michi. with Mach LiDARZ - 「SHADOW-旅団の影-」
Entry tags:aurora, concerts, daishi, ecstasy 002., japan, kriss, lida, lives, michi, michi. with mach lidarz, plc, s.q.f., takadanobaba club phase, the romeo, tokyo

LIVE REPORT: ecstasy 002. at 高田馬場 CLUB PHASE, 02.03.08
Night two. this night was....a bit of a blur, to be honest. So much was going on, and I was already pretty emotionally frazzled after last night....I really barely slept last night. I kept having nightmares about Lida and Daishi--call me a fucking baby. I really just am, I know.

I almost don't want to recite this live because...it was just as depressing as I'd been afraid it would be. Well, the encore was depressing, and the rest worked to get my hopes up where they shouldn't have been.


michi. with Mach LiDARZ
Ah, so...tonight's performance by michi and company was...extra-special. michi was really on-point tonight. And by that, I mean that he managed to smack Lida in the face no less than three times. As you probably could tell from my last report, I'm really pissed at Lida, so watching Lida get smacked in the face was therapudic in ways I can't quite articulate.

So they open with the same crappy music as yesterday. The drummer comes out, then the bassist, then Lida. No one cheered for Lida at that point, which made me really happy. Lida doesn't deserve their cheers, or ours. Lida looked a little bothered by the fact that no one had really cheered for him, and I'm glad for that. One girl behind us managed to get out a cheer for Lida, but we largely drowned her out with our own cheers. michi finally came out, and we cheered loudly for michi, mostly because we wanted Lida to hear us not cheering for him. We're vindictive bitches, so sue us. He deserves it.

They started playing, and the first thing I noticed was that Lida's mouth was all pinched, like he was trying not to cry. By virtue of having seen PLC's last live DVD, I know what Lida looks like when he's trying not to cry and doesn't want people to notice. He does this thing where he leans into his left shoulder and puts his head down, and he started doing that a few songs in, though he looked like he'd start crying from the beginning. His lip was all pink like he'd been chewing it. And call me a bad person, but it made me happy to see Lida looking upset. It's proof that he has a soul, or something. Maybe.

On the bright side, michi seemed pissed at Lida. He wouldn't even look at Lida for almost the entire set, which I believe was nine songs tonight. He did look over at Lida once halfway through the first song and he shot Lida such an...annoyed look. I'm calling backstage fighting, because Lida wouldn't meet his eyes either. He played almost the entire set with his head down, and he screwed up over and over again. It didn't help that the guitar was tuned in too loud, so every time Lida wasn't playing in sync, you could hear it pretty acutely.

It was at about...maybe the sixth song or so, Lida started looking a little better, and he came up to the front of the stage next to michi. michi, Mr. I-Flail-So-Much-It-Should-Be-Illegal, had his left hand splayed out to the side, and Lida walked up right behind his hand. I think he was hoping that michi would sense him there and move his hand. Instead, Lida walked right smack into michi's hand, which hit him right in the face. michi, instead of lowering his hand, kind of leaned closer to Lida and flailed his hand a few more times. Right into Lida's face. He had to have known that Lida was still there, but still, he continued on. Lida looked a bit...irritated? And angry. And a bit hurt.

One thing I've forgotten to mention up to this point--the light show tonight was excessive. Last night, they had almost no light show, but tonight, it was flashy lights everywhere, to the extent that it actually made me dizzy. Perhaps they were trying to distract from the animosity onstage. I really don't know. XP

The second to last song they played was "Paradise!" and during that song, michi looked at Lida once and smiled, and Lida looked relieved for a minute, but michi refused meet Lida's eyes again. Lida seemed....well, he wasn't crying during the last two songs. He didn't seem happy, but he wasn't crying (or trying not to cry, or whatever he was doing...) anymore. I was a little disappointed to be honest.

The other highlight of michi. with Mach LiDARZ was....well, michi. First off, when he's singing angrily into the microphone, he's kind of...erm....sexy? Even if his voice is kind of death sometimes. He looked...really nice. Secondly, the things he was doing to his microphone stand should not be allowed in public. It was...interesting. He was basically jerking his mic stand off. >.> Yeah. At one point, he actually leaned down and started licking his mic stand. Yeah. Go michi. I'm kind of in love with him right now, mostly for seeming angry at Lida. I hope he yelled at Lida backstage, not just for upsetting Daishi, but for insulting him by not even coming onstage at the end for an event that michi put together. That's really just callous, Lida.


The ROMEO
The ROMEO's live tonight was....completely different than last night's. I could hardly believe it was the same band, and might not have were it not for the overweight Japanese girl legs flying through the air during multiple songs. Daishi came out right at the beginning, and he was just....alive. He started out completely into it, and carried on that way for the whole live. After last night, when he seemed dead for the first four songs, I was happy to see it.

I'm also happy to report that during The ROMEO's set, the only moisture on Daishi's face was sweat. Which is gross, but at least he wasn't crying. Not then, anyway.

The ROMEO was wearing their black suits with white ties today. Shingo came out with a bandana over his nose and mouth, which looked silly. Daishi came out with the sunglasses on at first, but like last night, he took them off just a few songs in. They opened with "Rodeo Strapping Boogie," which is just as stupid the second time around as it was the first. Again, Daishi would sing one line, then get us to repeat it (and yes, the only lyrics to the whole song seem to be "Rodeo Strapping Boogie" over and over again x.x). Daishi's ring was back on its customary finger on his right hand. Daishi came out screaming to get everyone into the live, and kept going that way. He asked us to jump during no less than three songs. He didn't seem...happy, per se, because I don't think Daishi really smiled once during the live, though he did lecherously lick his lips a lot, like last night.

He gave a couple of M.C.s, during which he once more announced the incorrect release date of 『JOKER』. The whole crowd was kind of like, "Eeeh? Chigau yo...?" Daishi grabbed his microphone stand and kind leaned against it with a, "God, I'm stupid," expression on his face. It was actually a little bit adorable. We all kind of chorused, "Awwwwwww!" at which point Daishi yelled at us in some angry Kansai-ben that if he says the release date is in February, it's in fucking February. It was actually a little bit scary to hear such rough speech out of Daishi's mouth, especially with the way his voice lowered. Scary. x.x

He did another M.C. in which he said the snow was rather cool (cool as in "neat" and not "cold"), and thanked the people who were standing out in the snow waiting for the live. And babbled some more about snow, however, he did manage to get entire sentences out tonight, not just confused sentence starters. People also, at one point, started telling Daishi "Happy Birthday" since his birthday is on the fifth, and he thanked people, though said it was a little early. But we all know we won't be seeing him on or before his birthday, so....>.> In fact, I wonder if he'll leave his apartment. x.x

Another thing that's worthwhile to note is that Daishi's...erm..."Excalibur" was...not fighting ready tonight (if you know what I mean x.x), the few times I got a glance at his lower half. For those of you who don't know, Daishi has an interesting onstage problem with...erm...a rather perpetual erection, but tonight, I didn't notice it, at least the few times I got a glimpse (sorry, Aurora, just had to throw it in there! XD).

They played "Billy" a few songs in, which surprised both Kristin and myself, but we have both wanted to see it live, so we were totally into it. Considering the subject matter of the song and how emotional it is (and the fact that they only rarely play it live because of that), I expected Daishi to get more emotional, but he didn't really seem affected at all by it. Though at least they didn't play "Never Junky's Hi," tonight, I don't believe. They probably didn't think Daishi could take it again. I'm not sure I could have, either.

They followed "Billy" with "Darlin' Nostalgia," which I was hoping they'd play because I had it stuck in my head. They played a lot of the same songs from yesterday along with it, and I can't really remember the order, to be honest.

I know that near the end, they played "バンビ" (third song from last, I think), then "GOD JAPANESE MONSTER," and they closed with "Angela." They played the same part of "GOD JAPANESE MONSTER" four separate times, and I kept thinking the song would be over, but they kept going. It was fun to keep doing, but by this point, they all looked really exhausted, though Daishi looked like he would have been willing to go a few more songs. x.x (Hiroki was sweating like a pig again. x.x).

During one of the songs prior to "バンビ," Daishi once more attempted to headbang, and like last night, he lost his balance and kind of failed at that (he also fell off the platform at the front of the stage more than once). It was during those middle songs that people were being rolled toward the stage again, but after yesterday's ball-kicking incident, Daishi stayed back behind one of the staff guys down in front of the stage. Daishi, today, came out unscathed, though Hiroki got kicked in the face. He gave the audience a kind of mock-angry look, but he was grinning, so it didn't have much effect. It was pretty adorable.

During the super-extended version of "GOD JAPANESE MONSTER," Daishi went back to the back of the stage and talked to Shingo for a minute--he seemed to be checking on his friend, which was pretty sweet of him. We all screamed for Daishi nonstop, and it seemed to amuse him a little, for which I'm glad. Daishi deserves every moment of happiness he can grasp, especially on a night like tonight. (T__T)

By the end, Daishi was looking a little frazzled, though. He kind of held his head and swayed a little, and Kristin and I exchanged a look--he kind of looked like he was going to pass out more than once near the end. Again, though, he made it through okay, but no stage-diving or anything today. At first, I was thinking that tonight was a better night than last night, mostly because...Daishi didn't cry onstage during The ROMEO's set, like last night. And yet, in some ways, I really think that tonight might have been worse for him, and harder. And once again, he was off the stage in seconds once the live was over.


S.Q.F.
If I thought S.Q.F. was special last night, they were....super-special tonight. Last night's outfits were like...weirdly patterned black latex along with some matching shit stuck to the sides of their heads, but tonight. But tonight's....oh, tonight's! They were excitingly purple and gold, and michi especially was pretty amazing. He had some fuzzy shit on his right shoulder, but it started falling off about the second song in, and so did his arm warmer. Not sure what happened to the arm warmer, but he took the fuzzy purple thing (with gold chains on it) off while singing. He attempted to take the shit off gracefully, and he failed a lot. He actually tried to put it back on his shoulder twice, but it really just would not stay.

They also had really unnecessary gold skirt-like shit, the sole of purpose of which was, I think, for michi to swirl it around. And swirl it he did, right into Nao twice and the the bassist once. He also smacked Nao in arm once, and kind of gave him an apologetic look, and Nao just shrugged and smiled after pretending to be angry and holding out his fist at michi for a second. It was cute.

At one point, michi picked up his mic stand and turned it upside down and the base of it hit one of the stage lights. We were really worried he'd knock it down and kill himself. x.x And during one of the songs, when he wanted the audience to sing along, he'd pick up the mic stand and turn it out toward the audience, holding it over their heads, which was really adorable.

Watching S.Q.F. tonight was...different from last night. They played a few more of the heavier songs, because I remember more headbanging than last night, though they still played some of the same fun, bouncy ones from last night. I think they played more songs than last night, too, and the last song has especially amusing furitsuke to do (it's one of the same that they played last night, and it was fun then, too ^.^). michi was also a lot less...physically interactive with his bandmates. He seemed....more intense, more focused, and less WTF!genki-all-over-the place. He did put his arm around the bassist once, and stroked Nao's arm strangely during one of Nao's solos, but other than that, it was pretty tame as touching went, compared to last night, anyway.

I can't think of anything else to say about S.Q.F.--I pulled a muscle in my thigh about halfway through their set, so I admittedly wasn't paying as much attention as I might have, as I was in pain. Nao is still adorable, though, and insanely talented. Part of me would love to watch S.Q.F. live again, even if michi's voice does suck. Their lives are such fun. XP Though I don't think I'd ever willingly listen to recorded music. No fun, when I don't have michi's pretty face and flailing limbs to distract me from his...questionable voice. x.x


The Encore
Pulled thigh muscle aside, I was in a great mood by the time the encore came around. Lida seemed upset, Daishi seemed somewhat okay, michi seemed pissed, and I was hoping that this all added up somehow to, "Someone knocked some sense into Lida." I was hoping Lida would shock me by coming out tonight. I was hoping...a lot of things. I was disappoined on all of them.

They all came out together, like they did last night. Shingo first, on drums, and I guess Daisuke was also playing guitar, but I didn't notice him last night. x.x (Fail on my part, I'm sorry. I was watching Daishi. x.x) Nao was playing the other guitar, and Hiroki was on bass, and as before, the members who weren't playing came out onstage, too. But no Lida.

So Daishi and michi both came out, michi first then Daishi. Daishi had this insanely large grin on his face, and I was relieved for a minute. But then Kristin turned back to me and said, "Is it me, or does he look like he's been crying again?" And I looked more closely at Daishi, and indeed, his face was red again. He looked crushed once again, completely opposite the way he looked when he'd been onstage with his band, but the sick part was that he was trying to smile the entire time, especially when michi would look over at him. I think he was trying to put up a brave front for michi, which is sweet but heartbreaking.

The ROMEO had changed outfits--Hiroki was wearing a white leather jacket like their black ones from the night before, and Daisuke was wearing something more casual, though I don't precisely remember what. Daishi's outfit was absolutely adorable, a grey fedora and a grey vest, over a black shirt that had the same slight v-neck as last night's. He was wearing the same jewelry, including Kirito's necklace, as always. Daishi asked how many people had gone to last night's live, and we raised our hands. They seemed a little surprised by the amount of people who raised their hands. They kept saying things about the previous night's concert that I didn't quite catch, and then, Daishi mentioned Lida like...twice. Neither of us managed to quite understand what he had said, as he was speaking really fast, but I'm guessing it's not, "Lida and I made up, and now we're friends again!" as Lida still didn't come out onstage tonight. And Daishi was crying again.

They played the same two songs as last night, but about thirty seconds into the first one, I noticed that Daishi was wiping away tears from under his eyes and wiping his nose, and he kept doing that every so often throughout the entire encore, though he did manage to sound pretty normal both singing and talking, for which I commend him. But from all that he was wiping his cheeks, it was obvious that he was definitely crying, again, and it was absolutely pitiful to watch. And again, the most disturbing part of it was whenever michi would look over, Daishi would flash him this huge smile, and it was almost grotesque to watch, because it was so faked, and such a terrible contrast of a bastardized show of happiness with Daishi's complete dejection.

When michi looked away, though, Daishi generally tended to stand pretty still and just look...entirely blank. Dead. I don't know what, if anything, happened between The ROMEO's set and the encore, or if it was just finally hitting Daishi how much this all hurt, but he was completely different. As if all the life had been sucked out of him. I might be able to shed more light if I had understood what he said about Lida, but....x.x I'm honestly surprised he mentioned Lida at all.

The encore was...more subdued than last night, or maybe I just wasn't paying enough attention to anyone but Daishi, because I kept watching to see if he'd wipe his eyes again. (T__T) I didn't see S.Q.F.'s bassist and drummer flailing around as much as they had last night, though Hiroki still seemed quite into it, the same way he was during The ROMEO's set (he was all over the stage, grinning and coming up to the front and just vehemently playing his guitar. And when he and Daisuke gave each other a high-five as they switched sides of the stage during one of The ROMEO's songs....cute. Adorable. ^.^)

Daishi sang for awhile with his arm slung around Nao's shoulder, but his attempts to be bright were lackluster at best. You could hear the tears in his voice when he sang, and...it was heartbreaking. Once more, within three seconds of them finishing, Daishi was off the stage, his head bowed. He was crying, and it was obvious. I wanted to hurt Lida so badly at that moment.


After the live
People cheered kind of halfheartedly for an encore, but they put the screen down and Kristin and I were pretty sure there just...wouldn't be another, so we got ready to leave. We moved into the room where the bar and merchandise and such are, and that's also where the door to the dressing room opens into. And again, right as we got there, the members of The ROMEO were coming out. Everyone "Otsukaresama"-ed them all, and there were also many choruses of "Arigatou!", and Hiroki was grinning, and Shingo nodded to us. Daishi was the last to come out, and first off, he didn't have a coat on. He went out into the snow without a coat. No joke. Secondly, he already had his cigarettes in his hand, and he actually ducked back into the dressing room area for a moment to take a drag of his cigarette.

He was smoking on the way out, and as everyone tried to thank him, and shit, he just...didn't seem to notice. He walked past us all kind of like a zombie, like...he just wanted to get out of there. His face was red, and his eyes were glassy, and it was just...have I used the word "heartbreaking" enough? I don't have many more apt words. I kind of want to kill Lida and hug Daishi, though I don't think either action would be fully appreciated by either of them.

When Daishi cried, I wanted to cry, and I nearly did. A lot of the fans were really upset tonight, too--we walked past one girl positively bawling as we were walking out, and she wasn't the only one crying..

I just...I hope Lida knows how many fans he alienated these two nights. I hope he knows that there were people crying because he hurt Daishi. I hope he knows that he made Daishi cry, and I hope that he feels like shit about it. I hope he hates himself for it, at least, and that's why he was crying. I say that I hope he knows, but honestly...even if he did, I'm not fully sure he'd care. He clearly doesn't seem to care all that much, because he keeps trampling on Daishi's hopes time and time again.

I've forgiven Lida twice for hurting Daishi like this. I've sympathized with Lida, come back to being a fan after being incredibly angry at him, and continued to support him despite everything.

But I honestly don't think I can forgive Lida this time. Last year, when Lida disappointed Daishi, I didn't have to stand there and have my heart torn out as I watched Daishi cry. And I think I've given Lida enough chances, given him the benefit of the doubt too many times. I've tried to rationalize his behavior, look at things from his point of view...but at this point, he's simply torturing the man he once considered his best friend. And I can't sympathize with that or support him for it. And from the look on michi's face tonight...I'm not sure michi or anyone else can either. I hope Lida alienated more than just his fans. Maybe it will finally knock some sense into him

I give up on Lida. I really, really do. And I wish Daishi could too, only so he wouldn't have to be hurt by him any more. x.x



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[info]cerulean_chains
2008-02-03 08:58 pm UTC (link)
Wow. I don't even give two shits about PLC and yet these Live reports managed to make me unbearably sad. Not sure what that means but...yeah.

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[info]blackfaeryblood
2008-02-04 01:10 am UTC (link)
Clearly, it says that Lida is such an asshole that it transcends even the PLC fanbase. >.> Anyone who is human and has feelings, I think, would be upset about what Lida's been doing to Daishi. It's cruel and insensitive, and apparently only Lida doesn't think so. x.x

I don't know, but...watching Daishi cry two nights in a row was pretty heartbreaking.


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[info]cerulean_chains
2008-02-04 03:00 am UTC (link)
Maybe. But I know what it's like to have to shut someone out of your life, to force yourself not to forgive them for your sake. It's a two sided blade.

I'm certainly not defending Lida, since I really know very little about the situation, but...I think it's equally cold to think that he isn't hurting too. He lost his best friend too, ya know.

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[info]blackfaeryblood
2008-02-04 03:09 am UTC (link)
I don't know. Lida has had every opportunity to reconcile with Daishi, and Daishi has made more than one attempt. Daish's apologized, shown remorse, and basically tortured himself over this whole thing. And Lida just shuns him time and time again.

If Lida lost anything in this fiasco, it would be so easy for him to fix things. He refuse to, and just seems to tear Daishi's heart open time and time again.

Like I said before, I forgave Lida the first two times he did something like this. I tried to look at things from his point of view. But I don't think that Lida is the victim here, and if he is hurting, it's his own fault, and he should an attempt to fix this, because Daishi would take him back in a moment. Lida's only getting what he deserves, in my opinion.

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[info]cerulean_chains
2008-02-04 03:17 am UTC (link)
*shrug* There's a lot that I would like to say about that but...I'd probably just end up talking about my own experiences, which may or may not be of relevance here. I don't know since I don't really like PLC and have made no effort to be in the loop about them and the bands they spawned.

But I will say that rejecting someone hurts. Is it fair to say it hurts more? No, of course not. But...it's not a walk in the park either. Maybe Lida does "deserve it", but I don't think there's any way for us to know that.

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[info]blackfaeryblood
2008-02-04 03:30 am UTC (link)
I'd say that we should probably agree to disagree, because otherwise, we'll just end up talking in circles. Everyone else has managed to forgive Daishi but his supposed "best friend," and I really think that nearly three years is more than enough time to string Daishi along and make him suffer.

I'm sure that Lida is hurting--he was trying not to cry onstage last night, which is proof enough of that. And like I said, I've spent a lot of time trying to sympathize with him...saying that Daishi has put him through a lot, that it was his band that Daishi brought down with his arrest, and all sorts of other things. But there's only so long that those excuses can hold water for me, because at this point, I really just think that Lida is being unnecessarily cruel, as I've said before. It hurts me to watch Daishi quite literally torture himself over his guilt, and over the fact that Lida refuses to forgive him. And it hurts me more that Lida doesn't seem to care enough to make even the minutest effort to reconcile with Daishi, even though Daishi has reached out to him more than once.

So I can't sympathize with Lida anymore. I've spent nearly three years trying. So I must say, again, we should agree to disagree. Because Lida is now continuing to punish Daishi simply for being human and making mistakes. And Lida isn't a saint himself.

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[info]cerulean_chains
2008-02-04 03:36 am UTC (link)
Frankly, I think Daishi needs to just let it go. But that's just me.

Right. I'll bugger off now.

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[info]blackfaeryblood
2008-02-04 03:49 am UTC (link)
I think it's kind of silly to contest that Lida, who really seems not to care, must be hurting and yet Daishi, who is clearly hurting, should just "get over" losing his best friend, but whatever you say. I don't understand your logic, personally.

But it's your opinion, I suppose. As someone who has followed the members of PLC for years, even following their breakup, I have a differing one. I suppose that's both of our rights.

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[info]noroi_kaidan
2008-02-04 12:45 am UTC (link)
I was crying during the encore. Lida's behavior is simply...disgusting. Daishi...there is so much I could say about him, his behavior both nights, everything, but...I'm just not. Because I know it would go all over the internet. ^.^;;;;

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[info]blackfaeryblood
2008-02-04 01:21 am UTC (link)
I was nearly crying, myself, by the third or forth time Daishi wiped his eyes. It was heart wrenching, especially the way he kept smiling for michi whenever michi would meet his eyes. michi probably feels guilty as hell for all of this.

Again, though, I say what I've been saying since last night--I support Daishi in whatever he does. I commend him for having gotten through those two nights, however he managed it. I'm not sure I could have given such good performances despite Lida's....assholishness. (<---not a word, I know).

I used to harbor anger at Daishi for so many things, despite still loving him, and you know that. But after watching him so completely broken up onstage last night and the night before...I can't. Not anymore. x.x

And still hate Lida. I honestly can't believe that he could be as cruel as he has been. Clearly, I've misjudged Lida in trying to view him as a person. x.x

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[info]dojogirlaurora
2008-02-04 01:15 am UTC (link)
I feel really bad now for encouraging both of you to go to the live, though I'm glad that The ROMEO had a better performance, and that Daishi was able to hold himself together for a while, whatever the circumstances of that. I know both of those things are laced with bitterness, but at least he'll have something to be satisfied with. Thank you again for writing this report. This is my fifth reading of it. It may take another to process everything and my own feelings of revulsion, and sympathy. Anything else I could say isn't fit for public consumption, so I'll whinge to you in private. x.x

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[info]blackfaeryblood
2008-02-04 01:33 am UTC (link)
You shouldn't feel bad for encouraging us to go. It was emotionally wracking, painful, and terrible in some ways, but in others...I'm really glad that we went. I'm really glad that we were able to make Daishi smile for a moment, seeing foreign fans there, I'm happy we got to scream for Daishi, and I'm happy to have simply been there supporting him.

I'm glad that he gave a good performance last night. He seemed...again, not happy, but at least satisfied with his performance. I hope that he does have something to be proud of, even though I know he just...wasn't happy by the time he left last night. He looked like hell. x.x;;;

All I have to say is that I hope his friends have something spectacular planned for Daishi's birthday. I'm not naive enough to think that anything will truly make Daishi happy, but...I hope that they can help take Daishi's mind of things. i.e. off Lida being an asshole.

Blegh. My point is...don't feel bad. I'm glad that we went, Lida's assholishness, michi's terrible vocals, and the bitchy fangirls aside. ^.^;;;

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[info]noroi_kaidan
2008-02-04 03:26 am UTC (link)
You know, despite the tears, and heart ache...I'm so happy I went. It was Daishi! I saw Daishi in person, finally, fell in love with his gorgeous voice all over again, and had a hell of a great time. And I got to hear Billy live, which you knew I was whining about wanting to hear. I even got the opportunity to stand in front of Daishi and thank him--and how long have I told you I wanted to do that?♥ Him, and YURAsama both, remember?

Lida...disgusted me, yes, but other than his asshole behavior and the pain it caused many people...everything was wonderful. Minus fat, bitchy, rude fans who have no consideration for others in the slightest and are really loud and such--but those exist in every fandom, I fear.~cough~

Oh, and Michi is...umm, hot, and gives an entertaining performance, and Nao is adorable, and really talented. ^.^ They were even incredibly fun, too! ^__-*

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[info]_miakoda_
2008-02-04 06:39 am UTC (link)
These 2 reports made me cry. I knew Lida was angry with Daishi but I thought they had made up. I was obviously terribly wrong. (x__x;) It breaks my heart to hear how Lida's been treating Daishi. I mean, was what Daishi did really that horrible? He made a big mistake, I know, even I was angry with him but I've forgiven him. Did he do something else that I'm not aware of? Or is Lida really just that cruel?

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[info]blackfaeryblood
2008-02-04 06:47 am UTC (link)
A lot of people were under the misconception that Lida and Daishi had made up because Daishi happened to open his big mouth at an instore and mention that they'd spoken once. However, it was really just that once. (x.x) And I believe it was mostly about business, from what I remember Daishi having said.

Everyone else has managed to forgive Daishi, but Lida hasn't for whatever reason. If Daishi has done anything else...well, I suppose that Lida might have continuing reason to be angry at Daishi, but the fact that everyone else has managed to accept that Daishi is...a good but admittedly flawed person but forgive him anyway makes me mostly unwilling to sympathize with Lida really at all on that point.

Daishi has mostly stayed out of Lida's way for quite some time, actually. The only reason they were both at this live was that michi tricked them into it. So to answer your question, Daishi likely hasn't done anything specifically to Lida to make him angry again. Lida's still holding the same grudge.

So yes, Lida really just is that cruel. x.x

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[info]_miakoda_
2008-02-04 07:15 am UTC (link)
wow....how sad that is. (.___.) I can't believe Lida just threw it all away like that. What a cruel and sad man he has become. (_ _) *is disappointed & heartbroken*

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[info]blackfaeryblood
2008-02-07 11:59 am UTC (link)
That would be why I said "likely," of course, m'dear. There's absolutely no way I could know for sure unless I were to follow Daishi in his every waking moment, and I rather think he'd object to such a thing. However, speaking as someone who has been following this situation very closely since before PLC even broke up, I have to say, that I'm relatively sure that Daishi hasn't done anything new to piss Lida off, especially since in the last year, they've only spoken once. To the best of everyone's knowledge, Lida is still holding the same grudge, and he's pretty much the only one who is. So forgive me if I say that Lida is the one at fault here.

Seeing as this is my journal, and I warned people people about the contents when I posted links anywhere but my personal journal, I have have every right to label whomever I want the "bad guy." Lida and Daishi likely don't care what I said in this report, so I really don't think they're ever really even going to know that I bitched about Lida in this entry. And even if I they did, my opinion really doesn't matter to Lida, I'm sure. So again, in my personal journal, I can bastardize whoever I want.

So yeah, maybe I'm really off base. Maybe Daishi's been running around doing all sorts of assholish things to Lida, but considering the way he's been fawning over him for nearly three years and they way that Lida has been studiously ignoring his attempts to make things right, I have to say, I feel completely comfortable calling Lida the "bad guy." You have every right to disagree with me, but again, I say, in my personal journal, I'm allowed to state my personal feelings. I opened this to the public, so you're also allowed to state yours, but don't tell me who I can criticize in my own journal. You can tell me you disagree, and I'll continue to disagree with you, but don't tell me what to do, if you please.

That all said, you might be right, but I still don't think you are, from my point of view. I guess we'll have to agree to disagree.

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Re: truth, hurts don't it?
[info]blackfaeryblood
2008-02-09 05:20 am UTC (link)
-rolls eyes-

Right. Whatever you say.

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Re: truth, hurts don't it?
[info]blackfaeryblood
2008-02-09 05:27 am UTC (link)
No, seriously. Stop deleting comments and making new ones. You're obnoxious and irritating, and really, my inbox is crying right now from being spammed by you saying the same thing. I really still don't give a shit.

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Re: truth, hurts don't it?
[info]noroi_kaidan
2008-02-09 05:46 am UTC (link)
I've been kind of following the commenting streams on this entry because I honestly find it amusing that someone can't make a post open to the public in their own journal, and state their opinions and views regarding an event... It's like reading poetry--every one is going to take what they want out of something, read through it with their own spin on events, read it and take from it what they will based on their own experiences.

This was her opinion. You stated yours. Nowhere, as you said here: maybe you should take responsibility for what you claim, is indicating that she, or I, spoke to Daishi after the show and sat down to have a heart to heart. This was a report, and yes there was speculation in it. People do such things every fucking time they go to a live, every time anything happens in the entertainment industry. Really. They just do. I don't believe I saw anything up there that said: "Fact, Lida and Daishi had a big knock down drag out fight right before the ROMEO went on stage, it was epic! It made Daishi cry!" Actually, a lot of what was said here is similar to what was being talked about by many of the fans--Japanese, and foreign--after the show. She, and I, and many others who replied to this, are all sharing our thoughts and opinions, talking about what might have/could have/must have happened. Again, I state that everyone does this. It's sort of human nature, I believe, when people like a celebrity.

How is giving a view of events, and then stating one's own opinions and speculations, a crime? It's her journal. If she wanted to say: "And jesus, was Daishi's cock fucking huge--he totally looked at Hiroki when I noticed it, so I think maybe Hiroki made him really horny" it's her right. And no, we don't know for certain what happened, and likely never will. That doesn't mean we can't talk about it. When one willingly becomes a star, when they willingly put themselves in the eyes of the public, they are discussed. Constantly. By everyone. People go so far as to document every moment of their lives. Is it fair, or respectful? Maybe, maybe not--sometimes people do take it too far. But I can assure that a lot of what we said, while perhaps a bit biased toward Daishi, I admit, was out of concern and caring since the man was crying on-stage both nights.

Many people are calling Lida and asshole, or a bastard. She is hardly the only one. Trust me. People were saying it after the show, in the open, right in front of the door that any member of the band could walk out of, loudly in Japanese--their native tongue. Personally, I think that, and the fact that only one or two people started to cheer several minutes after Lida came out on stage but screamed for Michi does a lot more than some fan angrily ranting in their journal. For that matter, there are similar things on Mixi at this moment, I believe. (Though I honestly haven't cared enough to go read up on Lida there) Not everyone is going to enjoy an event. Not everyone is going to pat you on the back and say you are a saint all the time. So, I think Lida has heard worse than he could ever read here.

Actually, we did talk to Daishi in that.."Hey, awesome show, thanks" way after he walked out. But you are right, it's not our business. However, this is FAN SPECULATION ON A PUBLIC FORUM SO THAT OTHERS CAN HAVE MATURE DISCUSSIONS, (aka--not this stupid shit), REGARDING SPECULATIONS ABOUT A PUBLIC EVENT.

Oh, and for the record...if you don't like what she's saying, either share your opinion in a mature fashion, or quit wasting your, (and our), time. Though you honestly don't seem to be in the mood to be very mature.

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